[CPMD-list] TDDFT Forces Calculation

Juerg Hutter hutter at pci.uzh.ch
Thu May 3 09:09:49 CEST 2007


Hi

you seem to use a special version of CPMD from Lausanne.
I can't comment on this version as I have never seen it
and I don't know what has been changed.

The convergence problems of TDDFT at the point of bond
breaking are well known and there is no remedy for this
implemented in the standard CPMD code.

regards

Juerg Hutter

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On Tue, 1 May 2007, Matteo Guglielmi wrote:

> Yes sure... here come my input file:
>
>
> ### CPMD INPUT FILE ###
>
> &CPMD
>  MOLECULAR DYNAMICS BO
>  RESTART WAVEFUNCTION COORDINATES VELOCITIES ACCUMULATORS LINRES LATEST
>  TDDFT
>  TIMESTEP
>  4
>  MAXSTEP
>  65
>  CONVERGENCE ORBITAL
>  1.D-6
>  SUBTRACT COMVEL
>  5
>  SUBTRACT ROTVEL
>  5
>  LANCZOS PARAMETER
>  3000 8 -1 1.D-8
>  MIRROR
> &END
>
> &TDDFT
>  TAMM-DANCOFF
>  LZ-SHTDDFT
>  STATES SINGLET
>  6
>  FORCE STATE
>  1
>  DAVIDSON PARAMETER
>  500 1.D-8 50
>  DAVIDSON RDIIS
>  20 3 1.D-9
> &END
>
> &DFT
>  NEWCODE
>  FUNCTIONAL PBE
> &END
>
> &LINRES
>  CONVERGENCE
>  1.D-5
>  MAXSTEP
>  1000
>  HTHRS
>  0.5
>  OPTIMIZER PCG
> &END
>
> &SYSTEM
>  POISSON SOLVER TUCKERMAN
>  ANGSTROM
>  CHARGE
>  1.0
>  SYMMETRY
>  0
>  CELL ABSOLUTE
>  23.0 23.0 23.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
>  CUTOFF
>  90.0
> &END
> &ATOMS
> *H_MT_PBE KLEINMAN-BYLANDER
>  LMAX=S
>  13
>   7.730   12.096   11.316
>   9.462   13.921   11.253
>   9.111    7.294   10.855
>  12.609    9.800   10.521
>  11.568    7.565   10.519
>   7.636    9.249   11.153
>  12.091   14.082   11.128
>  12.686   12.985    9.893
>  15.167   15.084   12.221
>  13.312   11.454   13.749
>  11.804   11.485   12.898
>  12.347   12.858   13.711
>  13.716   11.487   11.433
> *N_MT_PBE KLEINMAN-BYLANDER
>  LMAX=P
>  2
>   8.735   11.906   11.208
>  12.655   12.032   13.159
> *C_MT_PBE KLEINMAN-BYLANDER
>  LMAX=P
>  11
>   9.703   12.876   11.170
>  10.945   12.281   10.983
>  10.712   10.855   10.908
>   9.302   10.659   11.062
>  11.529    9.722   10.705
>  10.940    8.455   10.687
>   9.553    8.298   10.868
>   8.713    9.387   11.044
>  12.241   13.026   10.905
>  13.312   12.437   11.838
>  14.533   13.294   12.190
> *O_MT_PBE KLEINMAN-BYLANDER
>  LMAX=P
>  2
>  14.343   14.611   11.961
>  15.542   12.801   12.662
> &END
>
> #######
>
> The system quickly undergoes dissociation (within the very
> first ~60 steps)... that's exactly when the forces calculation
> convergence gets "unstable".
>
> With "unstable" I mean it always converges (so far) but it
> takes much more time (i.e. the number of steps is almost 4
> times bigger) than a "normal" forces calculation.
> This is also when the "oscillating" convergence behavior
> comes out.
>
>
> Ari P Seitsonen wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Matteo-Dude,
>>
>>   Did you get any answer to your query? I guess that more or less the
>> only possible person to answer would be Jürg-sensei, he might have
>> been busy... But what is your system like, which functional, which
>> cut-off? I guess that it's some huge biomolecule, with a large
>> HOMO-LUMO gap, no symmetries what so ever, ...
>>
>>     Quasi-Paris-always-sunny-leaving-for-a-bi-cycle-tour,
>>
>>        apsi
>>
>> -=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-
>>
>>   Ari P Seitsonen / Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi / http://www.iki.fi/~apsi/
>>   IMPMC, CNRS & Université Pierre et Marie Curie
>>   Tel: +33-1-4427 7542, Fax: +33-1-4427 3785, GSM: +33-6-6736 3820
>>
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Matteo Guglielmi wrote:
>>
>>> Hello World,
>>> Is there any keyword to play with in order to have a better
>>> convergence of the forces calculation from the excited state
>>> dynamics?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> MG.
>>>
>>> ##### OUTPUT FILE ####
>>>
>>> CALCULATION OF TDDFT FORCES
>>>
>>> CPU TIME FOR INITIALIZATION OF LINEAR RESPONSE:      .01 SECONDS
>>>   NFI      GEMAX     CNORM         ETOT(2)        DETOT     TCPU
>>>     1    .004355   .000100      -.18123358    .0000E+00    5.204
>>>     2    .001658   .000056      -.24605370   -.6482E-01    5.202
>>>     3    .001384   .000051      -.26147100   -.1542E-01    5.203
>>>     4    .001229   .000056      -.27143725   -.9966E-02    5.201
>>>     5    .001356   .000080      -.28057485   -.9138E-02    5.201
>>>     6    .001229   .000056    161.96293805    162.2        8.649
>>>     7    .000976   .000030      -.27801627   -162.2        5.203
>>>     8    .001825   .000076      -.28073816   -.2722E-02    5.201
>>>     9    .001645   .000065      -.27063144    .1011E-01    5.201
>>>    10    .001825   .000076    -61.26101933   -60.99        8.651
>>>    11    .001278   .000036      -.29556406    60.97        5.201
>>>    12    .000784   .000030      -.30045453   -.4890E-02    5.202
>>>    13    .000994   .000044      -.30416917   -.3715E-02    5.202
>>>    14    .000994   .000044     -8.26612609   -7.962        8.652
>>>    15    .000819   .000024      -.30947952    7.957        5.203
>>>    16    .000919   .000028      -.31216353   -.2684E-02    5.201
>>>    17    .003243   .000121      -.27781729    .3435E-01    5.203
>>>    18    .000919   .000028     33.55626466    33.83        8.649
>>>    19    .000647   .000019      -.31469832   -33.87        5.202
>>>    20    .000935   .000036      -.31638621   -.1688E-02    5.204
>>>    21    .001730   .000066      -.28531446    .3107E-01    5.200
>>>    22    .000935   .000036    -42.63214755   -42.35        8.649
>>>    23    .000609   .000020      -.32001373    42.31        5.203
>>>    24    .000647   .000021      -.32173429   -.1721E-02    5.201
>>>    25    .002774   .000115      -.29408352    .2765E-01    5.201
>>>    26    .000647   .000021     30.72424320    31.02        8.651
>>>    27    .000525   .000016      -.32325831   -31.05        5.202
>>>    28    .000884   .000029      -.32433396   -.1076E-02    5.201
>>>    29    .001227   .000040      -.31171156    .1262E-01    5.200
>>>    30    .000884   .000029    -58.89241894   -58.58        8.650
>>>    31    .000461   .000017      -.32686139    58.57        5.201
>>>    32    .000532   .000016      -.32799657   -.1135E-02    5.201
>>>    33    .001666   .000081      -.31711572    .1088E-01    5.204
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